Friday, 10 August 2012

Déise Championships are lopsided and in need to change


The past number of years has seen a number of proposals made relating to how the different championships should be run in the county.

Many people have suggested just as a number of the underage championships have gone in recent years, all of the adult championships should go down the same road and that divisional boards should be scrapped and confined to the pages of history.

Not surprisingly, past and present officers of the divisional boards are totally against such a move (in public anyway) basing their arguments on the fact that divisional boards have served the county well in the past and could do so in the future. Mention by the officers of the great joy it is for a club to play and win in a divisional final and then go on to play in a county final a few weeks later is also common place.

Some years back, a proposal was made at the County G.A.A. Convention to introduce an all county intermediate ‘Premier’ hurling championships where the best teams in the intermediate grade would play each other, giving clubs between possibly seven and ten games in the championship before the knockout stages would come into play.

The idea was good one, but did it get a fair hearing? In recent years Waterford’s record in the Munster Club Intermediate Championship is far from satisfactory. Since the introduction of the club championships at a provincial level, Waterford have gone out at the first hurdle more times that they have won a game in the championship.

Not surprisingly, when it went to a vote on the evening, the proposal was defeated.

Whether the various championships in Waterford will go all county in the coming years is hard to know. If the divisional boards have their way, hell will freeze over first. 

However, for the good of football and hurling in the county, someone will have to make a brave call sooner rather than later and decide that divisional boards have had their day. A reasonable time span (not less than five years) has to be given where all competitions are played on an all county basis and if after that time, clubs can vote to revert back to divisional style championships. 

Listed below are all non underage Championships in Waterford as of this morning.

Looking at them you can’t but notice how lopsided some of our competitions are. Let’s give credit to the Eastern Board for the way they run the Junior Hurling (Senior) attached competition. They have given each club a minimum of ten games. Up west, the western board have given players playing in the same grade a minimum of four games. For a club in the west who has a player who has potential, but who is not quiet good enough to play in the senior grade, will four CHAMPIONSHIP games in the year help him develop his game? 

In football, in the east of the county, just three clubs – through no fault of the board are competing in the Junior Football (Senior) Attached football attached competition. Players competing in this grade get a minimum of four CHAMPIONSHIP games this year. Again, if one of these clubs has a player with potential but is not quiet ready to play in the senior ranks, is this enough games to help him develop his game. Would he be better off competing in an all county competition where he could get a minimum of eight games?  

We have seen how moving to all county competitions at Under 14, 16 and Minor has helped the county especially in hurling and there is no reason why it cant happen at adult level. Unless we try something out, how will we ever know, if they will work or not.

 

County Senior Football Championship Group One

The Nire                      3          3          0          0          +35      6

Rathgormack              3          2          1          0          +6        5

Ardmore                      3          2          0          1          0          4

Ballinacourty               3          1          0          2          -3         2

Saint Saviours             3          0          1          2          -18       1

Gaultier                       3          0          0          3          -20       0



County Senior Football Championship Group Two

Clashmore                  3          3          0          0          +16      6

An Rinn                       3          3          0          0          +11      6

Stradbally                    3          2          0          1          +15      4

Kilrossanty                  3          1          0          2          +1        2

Brickeys                      3          0          0          3          -16       0

Dungarvan                  3          0          0          3          -27       0



East Intermediate Football Championship

De La Salle                 8          5          2          1          +10      12

Tramore                      8          5          1          2          +19      11

Portlaw                        7          4          2          1          +18      10

John Mitchel’s             8          3          2          3          +12      8

Bunmahon                  7          3          2          2          +5        8

Newtown                     8          4          0          4          -7         8

Saint Mollerans           8          1          1          6          -8         3

Kill                               7          0          1          6          -29       1



West Intermediate Football Championship

Ballinacourty               6          6          0          0          +61      12

Ballinameela               5          3          1          1          0          7

The Nire                      5          2          0          3          +14      4

Geraldines                   5          2          0          3          0          4

Sliabh gCua                5          2          0          3          -18       4

Ballyduff Upper           5          2          0          3          -30       4

Colligan                       5          0          1          4          -27       1



East Junior Football Championship Proper Group One

Kilmacthomas             5          5          0          0          +61      10

Butlerstown                 5          3          1          1          +8        7

Ballyduff Lower           6          2          1          3          -18       5

Fenor                           6          0          0          6          -51       0



East Junior Football Championship Proper Group Two

Mount Sion                  4          4          0          0          +30      8

Erins Own                   4          2          0          2          +6        4

Naomh Pól                  4          2          0          2          +3        4

Ferrybank                   4          2          0          2          -13       4

Roanmore                   4          0          0          4          -26       0



West Junior Football Championship Proper

Tallow                          6          5          1          0          +27      11

Modeligo                     6          4          0          2          +10      8

Affane                         6          3          1          2          +40      7

Old Parish                   6          3          1          2          +2        7

Shamrocks                 6          3          1          2          -10       7

Lismore                       6          1          0          5          -17       2

Kilgobnet                     6          0          0          6          -52       0



East Junior Football Championship Senior Attached 

Rathgormack              4          3          0          1          +19      6

Gaultier                       4          3          0          1          +29      6

Saint Saviours             4          0          0          4          -48       0



West Junior Football Championship Senior Attached 

Clashmore                  4          4          0          0          +44      8

Kilrossanty                  4          2          2          0          +16      6

Stradbally                    4          2          1          1          -9         5

An Rinn                       4          1          1          2          -11       3

Brickeys                      4          1          0          3          -14       2

Dungarvan                  4          0          0          4          -26       0



East Junior Football Championship Intermediate Attached 

De La Salle                 5          4          0          1          +24      8

Tramore                      5          3          1          1          +28      7

Bunmahon                  5          3          1          1          +2        7

Portlaw                        5          2          1          2          -12       5

Kill                               5          1          1          3          -22       3

Dunhill                         5          0          0          5          -20       0



West Junior Football Championship Intermediate Attached 

Ballinameela               3          2          1          0          +27      5

Ballinacourty               3          2          1          0          +14      5

Geraldine’s                  3          1          0          2          -17       2

Mount Melleray           3          0          0          3          -24       0



County Senior Hurling Championship Group One

Lismore                       4          2          2          0          +9        6

Dungarvan                  4          2          1          1          +10      5

Abbeyside                   4          1          2          1          -1         4

Ballygunner                 4          2          0          2          -3         4

Passage                      4          1          1          2          -5         3

Ballyduff Upper           4          1          0          3          -10       0



County Senior Hurling Championship Group Two

Fourmilewater             4          4          0          0          +32      8

De La Salle                 4          3          0          1          +53      6

Tallow                          4          1          1          2          -23       3

Roanmore                   4          1          1          2          -39       3

Mount Sion                  4          1          0          3          -11       2

Dunhill                         4          1          0          3          -12       2



East Intermediate Hurling Championship Group One

Mount Sion                  5          3          0          2          +12      6

Saint Saviours             5          2          2          1          +1        6

Ferrybank                   5          2          2          1          -5         6

Erins Own                   5          2          1          2          +7        5

Portlaw                        5          2          1          2          +2        5

Tramore                      5          0          2          3          -17       2



East Intermediate Hurling Championship Group Two

Saint Mollerans           4          3          1          2          +16      7

Clonea                         4          3          0          1          +16      6

De La Salle                 4          1          2          1          +11      4

Ballyduff Lower           4          1          1          2          -12       3

Ballygunner                 4          0          0          4          -31       0



West Intermediate Hurling Championship Group One

Cappoquin                   4          4          0          0          +34      8

Clashmore                  4          3          0          1          +17      6

Stradbally                    4          2          0          2          -6         4

Tourin                          4          1          1          2          -6         3

Modeligo                     4          1          1          3          -20       2

Shamrocks                 4          0          1          3          -19       1





West Intermediate Hurling Championship Group Two

An Rinn                       3          3          0          0          +31      6

Ardmore                      3          2          0          1          +21      4

Ballinameela               3          2          0          1          0          4

Abbeyside                   4          1          0          3          -35       2

Brickeys                      3          0          0          3          -17       0



East Junior Hurling Championship Proper

Butlerstown                 5          5          0          0          +92      10

Ballydurn                     4          3          0          1          +12      6

Bunmahon                  4          3          0          1          +2        6

Fenor                           5          2          0          3          -23       4

Kill                               5          1          0          4          -29       2

Naomh Pól                  5          0          0          5          -54       0



West Junior Hurling Championship Proper

Ballysaggart                4          4          1          0          +66      8

Geraldine’s                  4          3          1          0          +27      7

Saint Mary’s                4          2          1          1          +16      5

Colligan                       4          1          0          3          +7        2

Kilgobnet                     4          1          0          3          -76       2

Kilrossanty                  4          0          0          4          -40       0



East Junior Hurling Championship Senior Attached 

Mount Sion                  10        8          0          2          +65      16

Roanmore                   10        6          0          4          -9         12

Ballygunner                 9          5          1          3          +41      11

Passage                      9          5          0          4          -5         10

De La Salle                 9          3          1          5          -8         7

Dunhill                         9          0          0          9          -84       0



West Junior Hurling Championship Senior Attached 

Fourmilewater             3          3          0          0          +36      6

Lismore                       3          2          0          0          -1         4

Ballyduff Upper           3          1          1          1          +13      3

Tallow                          3          1          1          1          -4         3

Dungarvan                  4          0          0          4          -44       0



East Junior Hurling Championship Intermediate Attached 

Clonea                         5          5          0          0          +72      10

Portlaw                        5          4          0          1          -2         8

Erins Own                   4          3          0          1          +54      6

Butlerstown                 4          2          0          2          0          4

Tramore                      5          2          0          3          -4         4

Ferrybank                   4          0          0          4          -41       0

Saint Mollerans           5          0          0          5          -78       0



West Junior Hurling Championship Intermediate Attached Group One

Cappoquin                   4          3          1          0          +29      7

Ballysaggart                4          2          1          1          +7        5

Brickeys                      4          1          2          1          +2        4

An Rinn                       3          1          0          2          -14       2

Geraldine’s                  3          0          0          3          -24       0



West Junior Hurling Championship Intermediate Attached Group Two

Shamrocks                 3          2          0          1          +1        4

Abbeyside                   3          2          1          1          +7        5

Glen Rovers                3          1          0          2          -1         2

Clashmore                  3          1          0          2          -9         2


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